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Old 01-13-2015, 07:32 PM   #1
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CMS Performance - Stay the F*** away

http://www.houston240sx.com/showthre...t=60572&page=1

Car started out as a shell I bought super cheap, provided a COMPLETE RHD front clip and was promised the car would be completed in 2 weeks with a total cost of $3000 for the firewall and kouki core support change. All parts taken were absolutely mint, beautiful specimen without any damages, scuffs or any problems what so ever. The original payment agreement was half up front and half after completion of the vehicle.

Initially George (95S14) was at the front desk and was a very knowledgeable person that seemed to keep everything in check, when I initially dropped off the car I didn't even know who Leo Cruz was or that he had any significance. As time passed, it took over 2 weeks for them to even get to my car, the front clip was dismantled in one day and my parts sat in a corner plastic wrapped together.

I had told George that I did not want my car parked outside, but multiple times I'd drive by and would see that my car was outside. I mentioned this and was told that it would be put back inside at night, again not the case.

George ended up leaving CMS performance and that's when my troubles began to come forth. Leo would start calling me to tell me the "progress" on the car and ask when I would pay off the rest of the tab so they could finish my car.

After Leo had told me that the RHD was done I sent the car to Saul to get the paint and body work done before the engine and finishing touches were put to the car so that it could have a proper paint job. It took him some time to finally finish the car but there were many issues with the shell that I wasn't fully aware of that took extra time because of the extra work needed.

Leo got the car back a freshly painted vehicle (paint was finished probably ~2 days before I shipped it back to CMS) and was told that extra precaution would be taken for my vehicle.

I started a new job driving an 18 wheeler and awaited any sort of word from CMS, but none came. Finally I got to come back home and I stopped by the shop only to see that there were FOR LEASE signs on the building, with no indications that they moved shops or that they were still in business, so I called the phone number and was told that they moved shops, got the address and drove down there.

I found my car outside with a tarp TAPED to the paint, bungee straps scratching into my paint and a dent on the left rear quarter panel that was not there when the car was dropped off. I confronted Leo with this and he said that it must have happened during the move (basically throwing the tow truck under the bus, but I know the driver didn't do it) and he would fix it when my car was finished and again inquired when I would pay off the rest of the tab. I gave him an additional $500 in march to continue progress because I was told he would no longer work on the car unless I paid them.

I quickly grew bored of the truck driving job and told Leo I was interested in working for him, and if I could only go back in time and take pictures of absolutely everything I would. I was told to cut up A/C lines from a RHD civic to make them fit a 93 accord, saw that they plasma cut a firewall out of a civic and didn't fully weld it back together and then sprayed foam over it and shipped it to the body shop. A truck that I installed a turbo kit on, that Leo was too lazy to weld a cross over pipe for the exhaust that sat for a month. He didn't pay his employees anything at all but would take his family on extravagant trips to Florida where he paid all of their expenses. They also have a pile of A/C condensers and radiators that are customer's and they just throw them in a pile outside and let them sit out there without any care toward preservation. I quit at this point and told him that I was going to take my car.

When I showed up to pick up my car I was told over the phone that ALL of my parts would be inside of my car... not the case when I showed up. 15% or so of my parts were there, nothing more and when I raised my voice at him he threatened to call the police on me and have me removed from his property, and told me that he would find my parts.

The missing parts are as such:
Parts missing:
fans - clutch and AC
ignition with key - key missing
seat belts
right hand drive trunk release lever
fender liners
power steering cap
cam angle sensor
jdm kouki grille
wiper arm assembly with wiper motor
power folding mirrors with switch
spare trunk for s14
throttle cable grommet
hood latch
hood release cable
jdm fog lights with brackets
washer fluid bottle and motors
front bumper support
radiator brackets
horns
hood prop
ALL of the bolts and hardware to put everything back together
coolant resovior
s13 fuel pump assy with walboro 255
HKS SSQV with flange on a 90 degree bend pipe
hood hinges
spare S14 door (white)
front 5 lug hubs
entire front suspension
LHD dash, crash bar and all things from my LHD car
Vin plate for the vehicle
oil pressure sensor for kouki gauges
headliner
oil dipstick
windshield wiper linkage assembly
shifter bezel and shift boot for RHD (grey color)
LHD carpet
factory skid plate
RHD steering column covers


Plus they swapped my motor for a different one and thought I wouldn't notice. My engine had a small bit of seepage on the VC and the one they gave me had a caked black front cover from a oil leak over a long period of time, inconsistent with the one that was in my clip. Trashed my Radiator and A/C condensor and told me that that's how they got it... which was bullshit.

Needless to say 2 years later, endless trips to CMS, phone calls to Leo, text messages, etc. I still don't have my parts, Leo never fixed my paint job or made anything "Right". I've sent complaints to the BBB without any return, the last time he called me the next day crying about how he didn't want a bad BBB rating and said he would fix it.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:34 PM   #2
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:43 PM   #3
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:49 PM   #4
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I would enjoy to hear from the one person who actually had a good experience with them.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:52 PM   #5
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:54 PM   #6
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Old 01-13-2015, 08:02 PM   #7
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What ever happened to StuntmanMike?
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Old 01-13-2015, 08:11 PM   #8
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cms again? they even have truck bros mad at them: http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=693161
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Old 01-13-2015, 08:20 PM   #9
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Ban cms from this site at the very least, everytime I hear anything about them is to hear how they fuck some one over. Even if they did do something right they rape the customers for a half as job. Dude your best bet is to give them a bad rep and move on. If not keep trying to get your shit back but as I already know they probably already sold your shit to someone else. Sorry bout your bad experience with this fucktards.
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:23 PM   #10
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Shit is old give it a rest.

Cms LOLS what a huge joke,place is full of bullshit lies as the op stated.
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:26 PM   #11
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Have to say never heard of them before being a member here thanks for the warning! I will keep my money's to myself and do the work myself I could do a better job than that hack job. And if I die because it fell apart and crashed at least I can blame myself. Not some shady thief.
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Shit is old give it a rest.

Cms LOLS what a huge joke,place is full of bullshit lies as the op stated.
Are you GWAR? Then bye..
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No I am not, Any ways I hope you get that crap with them settled out man, and they get whats coming to them.
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man i was gonna hit them up to do a RHD setup for me and a engine swap... good thing you posted this... i will no longer be doing business with them.
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You are from the post GWAR era.
Hey, if gwar swears by this cms place they have to be good. We all know what a honest and trustworthy guy gwar is...
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Actually, last I heard, the screwed him over as well.
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Actually, last I heard, the screwed him over as well.
Whats funny is that apparently every shop wes steps into he ends up getting "screwed over".
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:28 AM   #18
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I think this one really screwed him. Idk the story. But it wouldn't surprise me if they actually did.
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I think this one really screwed him. Idk the story. But it wouldn't surprise me if they actually did.
Man, so many shops supposedly screwed over wes(Gwar), SMT, me and robs old shop, CMS and ect... IF they did actually fuck him over i bet they willingly did so once they saw that he was going to attempt to trash their shops name cause they wouldn't do all the work for free. Wes isnt happy unless he gets free labor...

Now im not taking CMS side on anything here, i just cant stand people who go off ruining a shops name because they weren't successful fucking over the shop... I've had to deal with many scum bags like that so i just hate them with a passion...
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:45 AM   #20
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Lol, yea, that's the sad part of owning a shop. Even if you do everything right, someone somewhere isn't going to be happy and trash talk you.

CMS on the other hand, I've never seen someone have one good thing about them. Ever, so that kinda stands for itself.
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Speaking of gwar, he bought a mint ass 4 door r32.
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Speaking of gwar, he bought a mint ass 4 door r32.

Damn, thats badass. Atleast he finally got a nice car
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The cat at front desk is full of shit .... I do give him credit for something the dude can sell ice to a Eskimo man .......
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Man, so many shops supposedly screwed over wes(Gwar), SMT, me and robs old shop, CMS and ect... IF they did actually fuck him over i bet they willingly did so once they saw that he was going to attempt to trash their shops name cause they wouldn't do all the work for free. Wes isnt happy unless he gets free labor...

Now im not taking CMS side on anything here, i just cant stand people who go off ruining a shops name because they weren't successful fucking over the shop... I've had to deal with many scum bags like that so i just hate them with a passion...
I can contest to CMS actually doing a number on Wes's car. When i moved to Houston, Wes asked if i could help him out with a couple things. The car looked good until you started digging into it. Wiring harness was fucked, firewall was held together with foam and rags stuffed in the bigger holes to keep water from coming in, wipers didnt work, ect.... After fixing most of the electrical and other things, he ended up getting rid of the car because the firewall was so ghetto rigged and i dont blame him.
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